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Friday, October 15, 2010

Converting Patients to BHRT from Conventional Therapies




Determining dosages and managing symptoms in patients who want to covert from conventional therapies to bioidentical therapy can be one of the most difficult challenges facing the BHRT practitioner. Conventional therapies and dosages provide too much hormone, even if the manufactured product being used contains bioidentical hormone rather than a synthetic agent. Conventional oral estrogen therapies, such as Premarin® and Estrace®, create a supraphysiologic overall estrogen status. While Premarin® 0.625mg and Estrace® 0.5 mg produce an estradiol level equivalent to that seen in normal premenopausal women, because of the high conversion of oral estradiol to estrone in the first pass effect, estrone levels in women taking these doses are usually 3 to 7 times higher than the normal level of a premenopausal woman. In the case of Premarin®, the product consists of more estrone (50%) than estradiol (5-19%), and therefore patients are consuming a product with a high amount of estrone as well as highly converting the estradiol in the product to estrone. Estrone levels in women taking Premarin are most often 5-10 times higher than normal premenopausal levels when normal premenopausal estradiol levels are achieved.

Bringing the estrogen levels in these patients back to normal premenopausal women is not as simple as reducing the dose dramatically, or switching to a physiologic dose of bioidentical estrogens that would produce normal levels in most women. In these patients, changes in the estrogen receptors and the brain take place, and have to be considered when converting them over to physiologic doses of bioidentical estrogens.

Taking a supraphysiologic dose for a long period creates a higher threshold for estrogen in the brain. This is similar to the mechanism of narcotic tolerance or addiction. Giving a patient who has no pain, and therefore no need for morphine, a sufficient dose of morphine for several months raises the threshold for the narcotic, and removing the narcotic will create withdrawal symptoms. The same can be seen with supraphysiologic doses of estrogen used in convention therapies. If you stop the estrogen abruptly or decrease the dose too quickly, the patient can experience severe withdrawal symptoms of estrogen deficiency. For this reason, I always try to taper the estrogen dose down over a period of 2-6 months depending on the individual’s difficulty with withdrawal symptoms. Once I have the patient on a lower dose (Premarin 0.3 mg or Estrace 0.25 mg every other day at the most), I will switch over to a bi-est consisting of 50% estradiol and 50% estriol.

Because women vary significantly in their individual withdrawal symptomology, taping the dose should be scheduled in a manner that allows for flexibility to an individual’s response. In my opinion, it is sometimes physically and psychologically difficult for a woman to skip her estrogen dose entirely for even a day. Typically, I will ask the patient to reduce to half of her usual dose, and take this half dose every third day for a period or 9 to 12 days, while maintaining her present dose on the other days. If she tolerates this decrease, then I ask her to take the half dose 2 out of 3 days for 9 to 12 days. (Note: some patients need to reduce the dose for much longer periods of time in order to tolerate withdrawal symptoms well enough to reduce it again).

When a woman is exposed to high levels of strong estrogens (estradiol and/or estrone) for a sufficient period of time, the estrogen receptors are usually lower in number and responsiveness, or sensitivity, of the receptor. Over time the decrease in sensitivity may become permanent, at least to some degree, so the patient may never respond to estrogens in the same manner as a typical patient given estrogen replacement. Therefore, often these patients require a higher dose of a preparation such as biest. Although in almost every other type of patient, I always start at the low end of suggested estrogen dosing guidelines, with the patients who have been on supraphysiologic amounts of estrogen for years I start at the midpoint of the suggested range. And I do not hesitate to increase the dose if the patient suffers significantly from estrogen withdrawal symptoms.

The same excessive hormone burden is seen with the use of manufactured transdermal creams, lotions, gels and patches. These products produce supraphysiologic levels of the hormones they contain. Men that are administering conventional doses of topical testosterone have 5 to 10 times the amount of testosterone in their tissues than when they are 18 years of age. After several months on a high dose, the effectiveness of the testosterone wears off as receptors are down regulated. Usually the dose of testosterone is increased, until eventually the testosterone becomes ineffective at symptom management at even super high doses. Men that have to withdraw from these supraphysiologic doses can suffer the symptoms of apathy, muscle weakness, decrease in stamina, depression and even suicidal thoughts.

Due to the wide variance in degree of testosterone withdrawal symptoms in men, I have not yet determined a tapering program. I have tried, or seen tried, up to a 50% weekly reduction in the amount of testosterone administered. With the use of a cream or gel, I usually ask the patient to not use the product for a few days to a week. If they feel poorly, they go back to using the product at 75% to 90% of the former dose for the same amount of time that they went without any supplementation; then repeat this schedule until physiologic levels are reached.

Changing a synthetic progestin to bioidentical progesterone, or just adding progesterone, is much easier. Immediately stop the progestin and start progesterone. Progesterone has effects on estrogen synthesis and metabolism, as well as increasing sensitivity of the estrogen receptors. These effects may not be fully appreciated for several weeks. Also, synthetic progestins can take several weeks to clear completely form the body. So it is best to make the switch as soon as possible. Withdrawal will not be an issue because of the slow clearance of the progestins, and because the progestins outside of the uterus do not produce the same effect on the receptors as progesterone. In essence, you are replacing a progesterone antagonist with progesterone.

When converting patients from conventional to bioidentical therapies, practitioners need to keep the patient’s comfort in mind. It can be a difficult time for patients of either sex, and the practitioner should show flexibility and patience in obtaining the long term goal of establishing physiologic levels.

Jim Paoletti, Pharmacist, FAARFM

6 comments:

  1. What would be the starting dosage range for your Bi-Est 50%-50%?

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  2. The range I use for topical bi-est 50%-50% is 0.05-0.25 mg daily. Can be applied once a day or split into twice a day dosing depending on an individaul's needs and response. For patients that have been on conventional estrogen therapy for several years, they will need more estrogen typically. After tapering off the high dose of the conventional estrogen, I usually start them on bi-est 50-50 at 0.15 mg daily. Please note that proper adjustment of progesterone and androgen levels, addressing insulin resistance if present, and addressing adrenal and thyroid fucntion make the estrogen work efficiently
    Jim

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  3. I have a patient who was on synthetic hormones and came to me on biest 80/20 1mg. she is getting hot flashes again after 4 months and I am suspecting down regulation. I think the bio-identical dose is high. But when she was blood spot tested are estrogen was within range (albeit on the high side) but her progesterone was through the roof. Can you explain that...

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  4. Could be a number of things causing hot flashes. If the biest is taken orally, the estradiol is converted to estrone. E2 may normal with high E1. ALso, hot flashes can be caused by high or low cortisol or low thyroid function. Also, to much progeterone can down-regulate estrogen receptors. How much progesterone she is taking and how & which lab measured it could be the key
    Jim

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  5. I have a patient who is on 2.0 biest (80/20) with 70 of progesterone . She is having increasing hot flashes since increasing the progesterone (d/t low blood levels) Any thoughts Also would appreciate info about conferences or other resources on BHRT

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  6. Assuming the hormones are applied topically, the initial problem I see is the use of conventional serum testing to determine the levels. Serum results do not at all correspond with tissue levels when topical hormones are used. You must use saliva testing or capillary blood spot testing when using topical hormones. Too much progesterone or too much estrogen can result in down-regulation of estrogen receptors, and the estrogen will not work correctly. The typical symptoms of too much of either or both of these hormones mimic the symptoms of too little estrogen, i.e., hot flashes. My suspicion is she already has too much of both in her system. This could be confirmed with saliva testing to see where her free hormone tissue levels are. In the meantime, you might try having her skip 3-4 days of treatment and see if the hot flashes improve. If so, have her go back on a reduced dose.

    ZRT is hosting three live conferences this year devoted to hormonal health. We also offer online webinars. Please visit our Education page at www.zrtlab.com/events. As to BHRT resources, I encourage you to browse through data sheets and handouts compiled from medical research by our clinical consultants and technicians: http://www.zrtlab.com/information-and-research/provider-resources.html

    Hope this helps.
    Jim Paoletti

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